Supposed Populism in the United States in 2024 and the Upcoming Second Trump Administration
Rick Garlikov

A "close-reading" of, and response to, Populist Conservatism and Constitutional Order by Kevin D. Roberts, President of The Heritage Foundation -- published in Imprimis, a publication of Hilldale College.  My comments are in the relevant places in this red font to make them easily distinguishable from those of Dr. Roberts. 

The following [in black font] is adapted from a talk delivered in Christ Chapel at Hillsdale College on October 23, 2024, as part of the Drummond Lectures in Christ Chapel series.

The top-down, elitist -- this has become a disparaging pejorative term as brandished by conservatives against liberals, particularly those educated at or affiliated with certain universities considered to be liberal.  The implied charge is that liberals are out of touch with society at large and with the will of the people, and suffer from delusions of superiority rather than any actual superior qualities, knowledge, or intellect.  But "elite" actually simply means "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society" and the election of representatives in a representative democracy was always intended to be election of the people thought best to serve in that capacity -- the so-called 'best and brightest', not the worst and least bright or most average.  Elitism was never considered in America to be based on birthright or wealth, although both those things have individually or collectively often helped people become elected, particularly if their expressed views matched the wills of their constituents or if they were eloquent and persuasive enough to be able to change the will of their constituents to match theirs --  brand of politics that has dominated the United States since the end of the Cold War and long before that, from the beginning of the country —under Republican and Democratic administrations alike—has failed.  As the saying goes: "Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan."  The problem here though is what counts as failure versus improvement or progress.  Conservatives, particularly those who are reactionaries, tend to consider to be failures what liberals tend to consider (moral) improvements and (social) progress.  But in many cases change brings both benefits and burdens, and the truth is not as simplistic as unqualified success or unqualified failure. 


Yes, we are materially richer than we were in 1991, and our largest corporations are more profitable. But we are [1] militarily and strategically weaker -- presumably in the sense of not now being the only ones with nuclear weapons or intercontinental missiles or with domination of, or the strongest economic ties with, countries whose natural resources have become important as technology changes or advances.  But those developments are not necessarily nor likely because of flawed political decisions made by 'elitist' politicians with a false sense of superiority – [2] fiscally endangered -- only insofar as the world is possibly now more competitive; but it is a mantra of conservatives that competition is a good thing (though perhaps they mean only when it is not competition against them) -- and [3] spiritually enervated -- but that is a point of contention.  It equates spirituality with organized conservative religion.  But even in religion, there are liberal adherents who probably agree more with the liberal adherents of other religions than they do with the conservative ones of their own religion.  As a result, public trust in the vaunted institutions that our elites control—political, scientific, journalistic, educational, religious—has evaporated for different reasons in each area.  Suspicions about science are limited to particular areas, such as medical science (sometimes oddly in that the same people who adamantly distrust and refuse medical vaccines, desire, or even demand, medical treatment if they get the disease the vaccine would have prevented or mitigated), often because some medical advice has become tainted by false accusations.  Medical or scientific advice also may involve unaddressed or unresolved conflicts with other areas of life -- political, economic, social, cultural, religious, or educational in various ways such as the financial, educational, and social development consequences of “social distancing” to slow contagion.  And also people fear or resent science and technology because it is difficult or impossible to keep up with the changes in the work place and elsewhere that science and technology are more and more rapidly bringing about, along with the fact that scientific and technological inventions can be appropriated for fraud and evil, apart from their intended and actual benefits). And populism—especially on the conservative Right—is on the rise.  But whether that is overall good or not and whether it is for the right reasons is important to bring to light and consider, along with the issue of its relative strength to what are considered liberal views.  One of the more interesting political signs carried by 'right wing conservatives' in recent elections was "Keep the government out of my Social Security", apparently without the realization that Social Security is a government program that is liberal or was considered too liberal at the time of its origin, and is something many Republican legislators have always wanted to reduce or eliminate and still want to reduce or eliminate today.)


Although I will focus on the U.S., this rise of populism is widespread. From Argentina to Italy to France to the United Kingdom to Hungary, there are similarities -- seemingly then casting doubt on the contention that failure is the fault of American Democratic and Republican leadership or political philosophies. The new populism tends to be economically and politically nationalistic -- in times of rapid scientific, technological, moral, social, and economic change, many people to tend to want to go back to a more comfortable past and narrower cultural environment they believe they can better navigate, especially without having to ascend what seems to be too steep a learning curve, or change too much in their lives.  It tends to be [called by those who want it] culturally patriotic and socially conservative, while being considered merely reactionary, oppressive, and backward thinking by those who do not want it. It tends to sympathize with workers over corporations -- seriously?  Conservatives favor unions or their goals of higher wages out of considerations about how company earnings should be distributed fairly?  It is also self-consciously, defiantly—often mockingly—anti-establishment.  So is liberalism.  Saturday Night Live and most of the late night 'comedy' shows and hosts are hardly social conservatives.


It is not a coincidence that so many of the West’s populist leaders—Javier Milei, Jair Bolsonaro, Viktor Orbán, Giorgia Meloni, and Donald Trump—have, shall we say, colorful personalities -- as do drunk, opinionated uncles everywhere. Their political swagger may threaten elite politicians almost as much as their policy agendas do, because it punctures the bubble of credentialed, institutional authority that insulates elite power from public scrutiny -- no; it is because it is blindly accepted without public scrutiny by so many people whom the educational system has clearly failed to teach either general reasoning skills or facts of history, science, math, economics, etc. as is easily demonstrated by formally or informally testing those things in the general population.  An all too commonly given and accepted political argument is that problems that occur during one administration are therefore the fault of that administration, even though they may have been natural consequences of the policies of previous ones.  Moreover, the accepted claim then is that those problems can only be remedied by changing the party in power.  It is like the belief that divorced people have that their next marriage, to someone else, will be much more successful and satisfactory.


With few exceptions, the Left as we know it today has rejected populism out of hand, embracing instead Big Government, Big Business -- false --  Big Banks -- false-- Big Tech -- not all of it -- Big Pharma -- false--, Big Labor -- which supposedly opposes Big Business --, Big Ag -- not all of it -- Big Media -- not all of it -- and Big Entertainment -- ?? what does that even mean?  Are conservatives against entertainment or just entertainment they consider too liberal and/or too vulgar, etc., which even many liberals oppose.  For the most part, today’s Left is hard at work fortifying the power these institutions wield against the rigors of democratic accountability.  Or is that 'against the conservative rigorous resistance to democratic and popular change'?  Is it more “populist to have resisted or pushed for rural electrification in the 1930’s and for the interstate highway system construction in the 1950’s, or for road construction at all in the early 1900’s rather than to protect all the jobs that had to do with horses?


Thus the only hope for a sustainable, democratically legitimate populist reform movement today is on the Right -- only if political and social pendulums can only swing fully in the opposite direction in regard to all issues and problems instead of being made to stop somewhere reasonable that may be different for different issues and problems.  The real solution to any problem is not likely to be one that is either "liberal" or "conservative", whatever that even means; and especially not in its entirety.  For example, competitive "free trade" markets are normally considered to be a good thing by both liberals and conservatives, and yet there are circumstances and occasions where they can cause harm to people, and the question then is how best to prevent, or at least minimize, that harm.  For, example when NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement) was enacted, it should have been pretty clear that was going to displace some jobs and workers in the U.S.  Those workers should have been paid to retrain for jobs that would be competitive under the new conditions brought about by the agreement, not just thrown to the wolves and left to figure out for themselves how to adapt.  Most change, no matter how it comes about, brings with it problems for some people that need to be addressed, no matter how much the change might benefit others or even the most people 'in the long run'; short runs are also important, since as John Maynard Keynes famously pointed out “in the long run, we are all dead”, or, as one graduate student one time pointed out to friends who wanted him to go out drinking with them one night when they said the important exam he wanted to study for that night wouldn't matter in a hundred years, "No, but it will matter next week and for all of my career in the meantime." The question is whether the leaders of the movement can harness the highly negative energy from which the populism emerges and channel it toward a coherent, positive politics of national renewal and reform.  And that is true; but from what conservatives so far indicate, including (especially) the Heritage Foundation's own "Project 2025", it seems unlikely the renewal and reform will be positive or good, and that it will simply exchange current beneficiaries and sufferers by reversing policies, rather than helping more people benefit and fewer suffer by actually improving policies.

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To see what today’s populists are reacting against, think back to 1991. The end of the Cold War appeared to be a great victory for the Washington establishment—never mind that most leaders of that establishment opposed Reaganism, which was instrumental in bringing down the Soviet Union. Regardless, this victory earned Western institutions a high level of public trust unimaginable today. In November 1989, for instance, when the Berlin Wall fell, President George H.W. Bush’s public approval rating hit 70 percent and would climb to 80 and even 90 percent in subsequent years.

With the Cold War over, one would have expected a recalibration of American foreign and domestic policy. It should at least have been a time for a national debate about those topics. For four decades, we had strung tripwires for nuclear war around the world to contain a foe that suddenly no longer existed. Working families who had invested two generations of blood and treasure during what President John F. Kennedy called the “long, twilight struggle” were ready to focus on problems closer to home.


But the Washington establishment had other ideas. President Bush himself, in the lead-up to the first Gulf War, pledged allegiance to a “New World Order” that would be governed by the United Nations and policed, at its behest, by the U.S. Between that tin-ear approach and his backtracking on conservative economic policies, Bush squandered his popular support so badly that he suffered an embarrassing electoral defeat in 1992.  But that is overly simplistic, since Bush faced two opponents in that election, Bill Clinton and Ross Perot, with Perot siphoning off more than enough votes from conservatives to have given Bush the victory in a race against just Clinton.


In 1993, Bush’s successor, President Bill Clinton, led the fight to ratify the North American Free Trade Agreement, which gutted America’s industrial Midwest and lit the fuse on an illegal immigration bomb still exploding today. In 1994, Congress passed a law submitting the U.S. to the World Trade Organization, surrendering America’s economic sovereignty to globalist bureaucrats. Soon thereafter, a bipartisan majority in Congress granted Most Favored Nation trading status to the People’s Republic of China, handing over working Americans’ multi-trillion-dollar peace dividend to our greatest international rival.


Clinton also sent U.S. troops into Mogadishu to referee the Somali civil war—with infamous results in the Black Hawk Down debacle—and orchestrated a bombing campaign in the former Yugoslavia. The climax of the White House debate about the latter mission is illustrative—it came when future-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright snapped at General Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, “What’s the point of having this superb military that you’re always talking about if we can’t use it?” And, of course, this was before President George W. Bush led America into the successive catastrophes of Iraq, the global financial crisis of 2008, and the Great Recession.  But people often simply make mistakes predicting the consequences of their options and decisions.  As it is said, prophecy is always precarious, particularly about the future.  Undeniably mistakes were made in all those areas, but they were human errors, not liberal versus conservative ones and not populist versus elitist ones.  Neither war or pacifism, nor trade agreements or protectionism tend to take into account the suffering and loss of those sacrificed for the supposed long term greater good of the greatest number. 


In the decade-and-a-half since then, America’s fiscal situation has deteriorated. Americans – and the rest of the world also -- suffered under the Covid pandemic while government bureaucrats (aided by the media) censored and demonized anyone who challenged the official (and often provably false) pandemic narrative – I don’t understand this claim; at the height of the pandemic, some 3000 Americans were dying each day, many of them previously healthy, not just the elderly or those with aggravating additional conditions; and even today, group activities during a time of contagious diseases tend to increase the number of illnesses.  It is not clear to me at all that we would have come out better if social distancing was not imposed in those cases where it was imposed.  It is always easy to say a plan that didn’t work perfectly was the wrong plan and that a plan not tried would have been better.  Monday morning quarterbacking and hindsight make second-guessing easy about what did not work, but not necessarily any more accurate about what would have worked.  Sometimes even the best of plans can fail; so failure itself does not show a plan to have been worse than proposed alternatives.  I do think that giving out ‘relief’ checks to everyone, rather than just to those who needed relief because their jobs were affected by social distancing or by COVID, was an error, but I thought that at the time, in part because of fairness and because those whose incomes were not affected by social distancing did not need the relief money, but also in part because I thought putting what would be “extra” money in the hands of those who did not need it, would likely allow and motivate some businesses to raise their prices just to take advantage of the relief program to increase their profits (and which then tended to also set off inflation in some cases).  And both Trump and Biden passed out relief check indiscriminately, likely helping cause or at least foster unnecessary inflation in some cases.  But also, the world supply change disruptions from COVID contributed significantly to inflation worldwide. The Supreme Court redefined marriage – yes, and made it more inclusive, which was good, but which they could have done by creating domestic partnerships with all the same rights as marriage without calling it marriage or redefining marriage; but the Supreme Court decision in Obergefell did not do the following: establishing the legal predicate for the trans fanaticism now responsible for destroying women’s sports and mutilating children across the country any more than it established the (at the time, feared) right to marry your dog or cat, or than it caused the COVID pandemic.  Supreme Court decisions, even problematic ones, do not cause every problem that presents itself after them.    The issues involved in the concept of transgenderism are serious ones that need much more systematic and deeper consideration than that which politicians on either side give it.  Similarly, abortion is a serious and complex issue that is not solved by either total (or near-total) abortion bans or by “abortion on demand claimed ‘rights’ ”.    The Justice Department, including the FBI, has shown brazen political partisanship in support of the elites and against the populists. I’m not really seeing this or what the evidence is for it apart from the claims that the FBI’s and Justice Department’s investigating Donald Trump for alleged crimes was somehow just politically motivated or that pursuit of his alleged crimes are purely political prosecutions, neither of which seems true.  Our nation has been beset by an unprecedented border crisis – yes, but that is also a humanitarian one, as has happened in the past, and which we didn’t always address in the best or most humane ways before or now -- a mental health crisis, and historically low birth rates --  the latter of which is by people’s choice, not by Republican or Democratic or by liberals’ or conservatives’ demands.  And while it is true that a declining birthrate can possibly mean labor shortages, the conservative right is opposed to allowing immigrants to meet those labor needs.  And yes, assimilation of immigrants is difficult, but so is education of babies born here to Americans.  And yet, conservatives seem to have an issue even with allowing the so-called “dreamers” be accepted as fully American citizens even though they came to the U.S. as babies or young children and grew up totally assimilating to American life, and often not even able to speak the language of their birth.  It would be like someone finding something technically wrong with your own citizenship here and saying they’ll have to think about whether you should be able to stay or not.  How can that be humane or right! 


As pointed out in the movie The American President we have serious problems to solve and they require serious people to solve them, not just people who make you afraid of the problems and falsely or simplistically telling you whom to blame for them. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was a national embarrassment – set in motion by Donald Trump in ways that crippled it in part; but so was the withdrawal from Vietnam under a Republican administration; wars are seldom lost or abandoned graciously or gracefully, and wars (and even lesser military actions) sometimes end in disaster, as do non-military actions and civilian choices in times of peace, wars rage on two continents – but not because of liberal or conservative policies unless you want to consider “might makes right” to be a conservative policy that requires smaller democracies not to defend themselves against larger authoritarian aggressors or receive any aid from us in doing so -- antisemitism is on the rise on college campuses – yes, a serious problem, but not one that is caused or allowed by conservative or liberal policies -- and China is financing its own cold war against the U.S. with money and technology American executives gave the Chinese in exchange for corporate profits – which also benefit Americans with lower prices; but yes, the karma of unfettered free enterprise can be unpleasant, even a savage beast; yet conservatives tend to favor unfettered free enterprise, so there needs to be ways to come to grips with it and distinguish when money is ethically right to exchange and when it is not – when profit-seeking is legitimate and when it is not (as in accepting bribes if one is a judge or gifts if one is a legislator, administrator, or judge).  Again, we have serious problems that require serious solutions, not simplistic ones. Our $35 trillion national debt is now equal to 124 percent of our gross domestic product. We spend more every year on interest payments on that debt than we do on national security.  1) This last claim seems to be simply false, if Google is correct.  According to Google the annual interest payment on the national debt in 2023 was $658 billion, 2.4% of the gross domestic product (GDP), and the defense budget was $820 billion.  Moreover, 2) Our national debt is caused as much by unreasonably low taxes on many who could easily afford more, as well as by any unreasonable, or unreasonably high, expenditures; it is not a function of either by itself.  Trump’s tax break to the rich during his first term increased the debt by a considerable amount.  And 3) the ratio of debt to income or productivity is misleading, as is the ratio of debt interest payments to national security.  According to Google AI “A general rule of thumb is that you can afford a mortgage that's 2 to 3 times your household income. For example, if your annual income is $30,000, you might be able to afford a mortgage of $60,000 to $75,000.... The percentage of your annual gross income that goes toward your mortgage should generally not exceed 28%, and the percentage of your annual gross income that goes toward your debts should generally not exceed 43%”

If I understand that correctly, which I may not, since I am not an economist (but neither are the politicians generally making these kinds of claims or the voters who blindly accept them), insofar as national debt is like a loan or mortgage, and our slightly over $27 trillion GDP is like income, we could afford a debt of $54 to $81 trillion, not just $35 trillion.  And insofar as you can supposedly be able to pay off a debt with up to 43% of your income a year, we could pay off a debt that cost us, $15 trillion a year instead of the $658 billion we paid in 2023, which was 2.43%.  Of course, all these numbers seem scary, but they are huge because they involve the incomes and expenditures of 258 million adults, and a total population of 340 million people over a number of years.


But the central point here is that the matter of debt is far more complex than just throwing out a few high numbers that make it sound as if things like social programs are costing far more than we can collectively afford and/or don’t do much good.  But insofar as social expenditures help people become productive or more productive, they can be investments worth the cost even economically, let alone from a humanitarian point of view.  It is important to remember that people are two hands to help more than they are simply one mouth to feed, and that basically all of us working together in various ways produce far more than we need to consume.  The whole point of economic systems is to achieve that.  Working in concert, we all produce far more than we could all produce working simply individually without dividing labor and trading with each other.  You have to consider the benefits and the costs when you do any cost/benefit analysis, not just either of those two things alone.  Proponents of policies and programs tend to emphasize their benefits while opponents emphasize their costs.  Both are necessary to take into account.

But all this gets lost in simplistic political rhetoric (by either liberals or conservatives) that is highly slanted and often even bogus or irrelevant.


These are the conditions that have rightfully discredited the elites and given rise to conservative populism.  No, these are conditions that need serious, careful, systematic solutions by serious, reasonable, thoughtful people, not simplistic solutions offered by ubiquitous drunk uncles or those who speak for them with the same mind and thus win their approval.  Populism by adults tends to prefer the known, comfortable status quo over progress and change (although populism in youth tends toward change, even impetuous changes sometime, that will throw the baby out with the bathwater – which is a problem for the unintended and unexpected consequences of abandoning or tearing down something problematic without having a better or suitable replacement).  And populism tends to favor a return to the past by those who had more wealth, power, and privilege in the past that came from unfair disadvantages imposed on the rest of society, whether women, people of color, immigrants, the poor in general, or any minority even philosophic minorities. The U.S. Constitution has never been one that involved purely majority rule.  It has always been tempered by the way the electoral and legislative processes were set up to try to protect some (e.g., originally mostly white male) minority interests along with their rights as human beings.  Those interests and rights have been extended to more and more people, sometimes leading to conflicting rights and interests which need to be solved and resolved, again by serious people, not just by populist opinion and pure simplistic, potentially one-sided tyrannical, majority rule.  Moreover, the concept of improvement in society needs to include justice and fairness as well as increased total wealth and decreased hardships, because the distribution of burdens and benefits can be at least as important as their total quantity. 


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Despite being discredited, the elites do offer a critique of populism that deserves to be taken seriously: the claim that populism is all style, lacks substance, and cannot be trusted. Populism, according to this view, is a rhetorical Trojan Horse that unprincipled demagogues use to advance their narrow, selfish ambitions. And to be sure, history is full of corrupt tribunes of the people who abuse their power and enrich themselves at their nation’s expense.  Well yes, there is that, along with the problem of its simplistic solutions and potential rule by the tyranny of a temporary majority.

The lesson to be drawn from this critique is that legitimate and enduring change in democracies comes neither from philosophers nor rabble-rousers – how did philosophers get thrown into this all of a sudden?  Much of the American Declaration of Independence stems from Jefferson’s reading and understanding of philosopher John Locke’s Two Treatises of Government, specifically the Second Treatise on Government, which outlines his theory of natural rights, such as the rights to life, liberty, and property, and the concept of government being based on the consent of the governed.  However, it is true that philosophy, by itself, is not sufficient for bringing about change; nor should it be, for, as John Gardner pointed out in his book Excellence, “The society that scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.”  It only comes by strategically fusing populist energy and principled ideas – which neither liberalism nor conservatism does automatically and which populism does perhaps even less frequently, if we are talking about good, worthy principles and not just any fervidly adhered to despite its flaws.  Zeal toward the wrong goals or the wrong way of accomplishing them is not a beneficial attribute. That is what Ronald Reagan did in the 1980s. He harnessed popular frustration—frustration with Washington incompetence, Soviet aggression, and economic stagflation—to a positive agenda of conservative reform. Richard Nixon before him and Bill Clinton after him also channeled populist frustrations and aspirations toward their policy aims. Going back through history, so did Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal, Theodore Roosevelt’s early progressivism, Abraham Lincoln’s unionism and abolitionism, and Jacksonian and Jeffersonian democracy. But isn’t this basically saying that people vote for a change in leadership whenever they are unhappy with something that they attribute, whether reasonably or not, to either the actions or inactions of the current government or administration?


Indeed, what was the Founding itself—and the Constitution in particular—but the thoughtful harnessing of populist frustration on behalf of clear, positive political principles? But it was more than that.  It was philosophical and ethical principle, not just ‘political’ ones.  As pointed out in the Declaration of Independence itself: 

… all men are created … with certain unalienable Rights…. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


Instituting a democracy with relatively frequent elections and other safeguards of rights, including against tyranny of the majority, made it easier to change government officials without having to overthrow ‘the form of government’ or the government itself.  However, obviously neither the Declaration, nor the Constitution after the revolution was won, included the rights of black people or women whose consents through voting were neither required nor allowed.  Part of the progress of the country was eventually including women’s votes and women’s rights to at least some extent, and the voting and civil rights of black people.  Other laws gave children rights against parental abuse that they did not have before when what is now known to be abuse was considered a purely private matter of disciplining one’s children, and still other laws gave wives rights against violently abusive husbands in what was previously considered the private matter of marriage and the husband’s right to total control of his wife.   At every step of the way to increase inclusivity of rights against people previously denied them, there was resistance by those who had power and control.  Convincing majorities that change was important, particularly when it meant giving up at least some power and control, has never been easy or merely requiring philosophical or ethical reasoning.  It also requires psychological persuasion and sometimes economic persuasion or other forms of motivation and manipulation.  But the essence is that it should be change for the better and for what is right, not just what the majority of people at any given time might want, particularly for their own selfish or even petty reasons. 


While democracy presupposes that each person will vote in his or her own best interest, it also is known that 1) perceived self-interest is not necessarily accurate and may not produce the best result for the individual, and that 2) majority rule can be mob rule that tramples on the rights of individuals who are numerical minorities, whether philosophical minorities or minorities in any other way.  Today, there are contentious issues that cause discontent with policies and with court decisions about who has what rights, many of which have to do with the exercise of power through office or through wealth that brings with it influence, often disproportionate influence.  These controversial issues play out with each election now and with each relevant court decision, particularly each relevant Supreme Court decision.  Unfortunately that is often because there is a lack of wise philosophical and ethical reasoning presented in legislatures, in courts, or in media discussions which tend to be just shouting matches where each side points out the problems of the other side without seeing, listening to, or trying to resolve the problems of its own side, and with neither side really seeking what would be not only acceptable, but also desirable, for both.  Often, even when not driven purely for greedy, selfish, or indefensibly short-sighted ideological reasons, policy debates are merely a form of haggling where each side seeks more than it wants out of fear of otherwise getting less than it needs or deserves.  Democracy works best when everyone is well-informed and reasonable, but there is today, unfortunately for a variety of reasons, access to too much bad information and too few people with the ability to distinguish it from the good information – too few who can sort the wheat from the chaff.  And moreover, there are even fewer who can draw the most reasonable conclusions, either individually or collectively, from even the good information.  Studies show that relatively few people are good at making reasonable logical deductions, even about empirical or otherwise objective matters.


Speaking of which, it is still the case that legitimate and enduring change in the U.S. will only be accomplished through the Constitution. It’s too bad that this point needs to be made, but there are anti-establishment voices within the populist movement—especially among the young and online—who reject the Constitution as an artifact of liberal, Enlightenment errors that must be replaced with a pre-Enlightenment form of government. But the American people are not interested in thrones and altars. They want a secure border, safe streets, economic autonomy and opportunity, a family-friendly culture, and a government that works for them instead of the other way around. Yes, but there is serious disagreement about what that involves, how to achieve it, particularly in being fair to everyone.  Students in my ethics courses mirror society at large when they cannot even see what constitutes fair pay for positions in a fictional company they own where they get to decide what to pay for each position in the company that is given as being both necessary for the company’s success and that is being done well by the person who has it.  And although they believe that there is something not quite right with athletes and entertainers making millions or hundreds of millions of dollars while police, nurses, K-12 teachers, trash collectors, coal miners, etc. make far, far less though doing more important work, they cannot see for themselves what the mechanism is that allows that and whether that mechanism itself is a fair way to distribute incomes.  They see that Nurse Jackie made $175,000 per weekly episode treating no one medically, while real nurses with real patients only make some $65,000 - $85,000 in a year, and they see that something seems wrong with it, but can’t see what, how, or why.  And they can consider taxes to be robbery, but not low wages in a job where your income is reduced, and basically given before you see or receive it, to managers and stockholders or individual owners from the earnings for the business that you were essential in generating.  They also cannot see that fairer wages might require lower taxes for social services that might not be as necessary if everyone had a reasonable wage for their work and if there was some sort of affordable private or governmental general or overall basic insurance available for people who fall on hard times through no fault of their own but just from the luck of the draw.


It would be a strange populism that haughtily dismisses the values of the populace.  But disagreeing with a value for a good reason is not the same thing as “haughtily dismissing” it.  Most people would vote for more gun control than their conservative representatives do.  Most people would vote (and have voted in state referendums) for legal abortions which their conservative representatives voted against, would vote against, and would reject or repeal if they could.  Elected representatives need to vote based on both the knowledge they have and the will of their constituents, and they have to try to inform their constituents to get them to conform to their own views or otherwise they have to choose between voting their conscience about what is best for their constituents or voting for what their constituents want, which may not be in those constituents own best interests although they think it is.  Representatives in a representative democracy sometimes have conflicting values between themselves and their constituents, and they have to deal with conflicting values between different groups of their constituents with each other.  At the federal level, the country is fairly evenly divided in various ways.  Narrow winners of elections tend to talk about mandates, but there are no mandates from an electorate as divided or diverse as ours is.  It would be a strange nationalism that promises citizens sovereignty only to turn around and rule them like subjects. Indeed, that is precisely what the elite establishment does today—and why it is failing.  And it would be a strange “populism” as well that does that too; yet it will be what you, Dr. Roberts, are promoting as populism, particularly at the end of your article.  Conservative, as well as liberal, legislators often tend to be dismissive of the views of their constituents, sending back clearly non-responsive letters or emails to requests they do not wish to honor and probably didn’t even fully read.

None of our problems are beyond our constitutional order’s power to solve. What is it we need, after all? We need a Congress that acts like a legislature rather than a company of moralizing performance artists.  Of course we don’t want legislators who moralize in the sense of making unfounded summary moral pronouncements with irrational, minimal explanations they don’t allow to be challenged or refuted, but we do want them to pass laws which are actually moral and right, and whose goals are, as the preamble to the Constitution says, “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity", which are goals involving moral judgment and moral concepts in their nature.


We need a president who acts like a responsible chief executive rather than a drunken king. We need a judiciary that acts impartially in accordance with the Constitution and the laws of the land rather than in a partisan manner. And we need to disperse the political power that is now concentrated in the hands of the Washington establishment – except that Washington is the capital of the country and the  location of the Congress, the administration, and the Supreme Court; and the Congress supposedly represents the will of the people through the people they chose to do that, so it is not clear what it means to disperse what is already supposedly dispersed.  Meeting in one place to conduct business does not mean that the power they represent is not dispersed among the people, their constituents, as long as they truly represent all their constituents and not just their supporters or those who agree with them. 

In short, the solution to our problems is not to scrap or transcend the Constitution, but to start obeying and applying it again. Under that document, “We the People” already possess every power we need to reestablish majority rule, minority rights, democratic accountability, equal justice under law, and national sovereignty.  But that assumes those things have been lost, which is highly debatable and certainly contentious. 


Writing my recent book on this topic, I kept coming back to a quotation from composer Gustav Mahler: “Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire.” The preservation of fire strikes me as a good metaphor for conservatism. It’s not rose-tinted nostalgia of an idealized past. It preserves the best of the past and applies its lessons to the present—maintaining a controlled burn as a way to a better future.  Not really a helpful metaphor, and probably could be claimed to apply to liberalism and progressivism as much as to conservatism.

The greatest challenges we face today are fairly straightforward. The necessary solutions, as Reagan said, may not be easy, but they are simple – “simple” is not always best or right.  It is clearly possible for a nation to control its borders – 1) not when borders are immense, have access from all directions and can be tunneled under or flown over, etc. but 2) the important issue is what to control for; that is, what and whom to allow in and whom to keep out, and why, and whether it is right to keep out desperate refugees willing to work hard and lead decent lives, for example, to prosecute criminals fairly, justly, and rightly is apparently not that easy; it is often as easy for guilty wealthy people to go free as it is for innocent poor people to be convicted -- to reclaim its sovereignty as it pertains to war, peace, and trade – sovereignty does not guaranty right choices or actions by a country any more than individual autonomy guaranties right choices by individuals.  And doesn’t one, as an individual or as a country, give up sovereignty to at least some extent when one enters into agreements with other individuals or countries?  You don’t have the right to renege on an agreement just because you might have the power to -- and to protect and promote the values that most Americans espouse – which is not always clear, particularly in determining or discovering the details, and even more particularly in a country as diverse as ours in which it might be said that if you ask three people what they think about anything, you will get four opinions.

Step back from the Left’s Oz-like faux-authority and think for a moment about its legal fragility. Almost everything organizations of the Left do is either funded by taxpayers – in order to provide reasonable opportunities for people unable to pay for the services that wealthy people can, in some, but not all cases, provide for themselves; but that includes police, fire departments, first responders, schools and state universities, the military, street, road, and highway building and maintenance, the courts system, legislatures, government administrations, etc.  Government is funded in large part by taxpayers; that is how it works.  The real questions are how government should best function, what services it ought to provide, what the revenue/tax source ought to be, and what the reasons are for answers to all those questions, etc.  Those questions are always up for debate about any existing and any proposed government service or function --  or ignored by prosecutors – this will have to be spelled out and explained, and shown not to also be a practice of conservative prosecutors and courts, especially those which seem to want to deny people their legitimate Constitutional rights.  Plus, as I understand it, police and prosecutors seem to be allowed at least some discretion in what charges to bring, if any.  A principled, populist conservative government could undo huge swaths of it with—in the immortal words of President Barack Obama—“a phone and a pen.” The supposedly un-fireable bureaucrats of the federal Deep State – is this a pejorative enough phrase to apply to what are otherwise known as civil servants whose job it is to make the government function well for everyone, even though they do not always do that or don’t have the authority to meet their responsibility -- are nothing of the sort. The president could reclassify, reassign, or simply – but probably wrongly and/or unreasonably -- dismiss thousands of them. Moreover, agencies that have gone all-in on woke claptrap – meaning ethical ideas you disagree with and prefer to dismiss by disparagement rather than by reasoned argument or by ethical principles that can withstand reasonable scrutiny -- in the last decade have advertised their own irrelevance to budget-conscious congressional appropriators – I don’t know what this refers to or means.

The U.S. Border Patrol could secure the border today if the president ordered them to. Energy companies already know where to drill—they just need permission – but there are pros and cons in justifying permission; that is the problem.  Not everything that can be done should be done. We already know which treaty loopholes China exploits to steal our jobs and trade secrets. The loopholes could be closed, or we could withdraw from the treaties altogether.  I understand the problem, and those need to be resolved somehow, but most laws have loopholes and many agreements have unintended consequences, and you cannot legitimately advocate following laws without accepting their loopholes that are disadvantageous to you or advocate for making agreements if you have no intention to abide by them if they turn out not to suit you.


Cities and states that refuse to prosecute crimes – again as I understand it, prosecutors and law enforcement officers have a certain amount of discretion in whom to charge with what, if anything, but there are also two other issues involved in some of this: state and local rights and conscientious objection to following laws considered to be morally wrong.  Those issues are difficult to resolve and they affect liberals and conservatives alike, in that each side tends to think some of the laws passed by the other side are morally wrong and too evil to obey -- or protect girls’ privacy – many gender and transgender issues, whether old or new, have not been worked out very satisfactorily in some cases and need to be, but there are likely ways to do that more reasonably than either ardent liberals or ardent conservatives demand -- can be disqualified from federal aid. Corporations that practice ideological discrimination – most likely a pejorative reference here to either affirmative action or diverse hiring and promotion practices, but the problems are that just because something doesn’t go your way, that doesn’t mean you were discriminated against, and helping someone previously disadvantaged overcome those previous disadvantages is not necessarily discriminating against anyone who would otherwise benefit from the previous advantages; again, simplistic, overly general, absolutist answers are not likely to be the correct ones for all specific issues --  can be prohibited from federal contracting. The Justice Department now harassing Christians and conservatives – how, by not allowing them exemptions from obeying laws they disagree with? And aren’t conscientious exemptions what you just said liberals should not be allowed to have? --  could start exploring Big Tech’s deliberate attempts to addict children to harmful online content – which is a serious problem that liberals and conservatives both know, even if they may disagree in some cases about which content is harmful; but it is a problem liberals and conservatives both need to solve. We could reform the tax code to prioritize families and workers instead of globalist corporations – what constitutes fair and just taxes is often an issue, but, again, for both liberals and conservatives, particularly when they disagree about which services government should provide. We could do the same with education, labor, housing, and transportation policy.  Again, which services government should provide and how and why are always up for debate, and are not just about taxation or costs alone, nor benefits alone.  As previously pointed out, you cannot legitimately do cost/benefit analyses if you only consider either aspect alone.  When my students consider costs alone, as they often do, I ask them whether they would be willing to buy a car from me for $50,000 if it would be difficult, but possible, for them to pay off a loan for it.  When they say “No” without asking any questions, I then say “Oh, okay, then I won’t get that brand new Lamborghini Aventador and its insurance for you (starting price at $500,000+).  Or consider the time the board of Ford Motor Company was disagreeing about whether to close one of its large, but less profitable plants, until one of the members sarcastically said in disgust “Why don’t we just close all the plants?  That would save all the expenses.”  The board voted to keep the plant in question operating.


Instead of funneling more money into DEI offices on campus, we could invest in trade apprenticeships – a legitimate issue to explore ways to resolve. Instead of wasting money on global green energy boondoggles, we could build nuclear power plants – sure, what can possibly go wrong with nuclear energy as a primary source of electricity or be problematic about its financial cost?  And what is your evidence “green” energy sources are all boondoggles, apart from Trump’s claims about windmills causing cancer from their noise and killing birds and whales, etc.  We could reclaim our sovereignty by withdrawing from the World Trade Organization and the United Nations and by clarifying our strategic alliances – but again, whether we should is the question, not whether we simply can. And the institutions we need to revive—marriage and family, – as long as they meet YOUR idea of what marriage and family should be, which is what many people disagree with, so it is not that your view is necessarily “populist” -- church and community, private enterprise and public spirit—already exist. Like flowers in a garden choked by weeds, they just need room, light, and water to grow again.


Returning to my metaphor of a controlled burn, we will need to ignite several of those to fix institutions like the Department of Homeland Security, the EPA, the Federal Reserve, the FBI, the Department of Education, the military-industrial complex, and apparently now FEMA. Today these institutions function as anti-American, anti-constitutional predators, serving their own interests at the expense of the national interest – these claims of anti-Americanism and of being anti-constitutional predators -- do not seem true to me.  Of course, every department, as with any organization, has various problems from time to time, but in these agencies, they seem to me to be specific and not institutionally anti-American.  FEMA was overwhelmed by the quantity and scale of recent disasters, and they were possibly underfunded (difficult to tell) and understaffed for the magnitude of those disasters.  But if their quantity and magnitude are fostered by climate change brought on by preventable fossil fuel use and expansion, it seems ridiculous to simultaneously advocate for policies that will cause more disasters and eliminate those who are supposed to deal with them.  Each of the agencies mentioned has a purpose and rationale for existing.  They often seem to work.  The Federal Reserve, for example, certainly at least seems to have helped the United States economy revive from the economic part of the COVID pandemic better than other first tier economies.  If you want to argue they could have done better or that any of these agencies could do better and should do better, then make those cases.  But to just say they are unamerican or anti-American or even unconstitutional seems to me to be an unsupported, unreasonable, and unfair broad, simply name-calling, indictment.  Their institutional status quo is inconsistent with freedom and self-government – well, any and every institutional, organized government is inconsistent with freedom and self-government by individuals.  Instituting any government is about individuals giving up some freedoms in order to secure other, more important, ones so that the “law of the jungle” is not what prevails in a way which makes life, as Hobbes pointed out “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short”.   America must break and reform them before they break and destroy us.  How about just remedying problems they have, rather than breaking them?  As to “reforming them”, I am willing to listen to your plans and the rationales for that.  But if you just want to reshape them to suit your personal desires, save tax dollars by stopping their services, or conform to your conservative ideologies, that is neither populist nor constitutional.


Not only in America but across the West, not-so-silent majorities today consist of citizens that the elites, by nature and ideology, look down on and treat as deplorables—those who believe in the rights of the individual, the virtue of local communities, the centrality of the family, and the sovereignty of the nation-state.  Those are not the defining characteristics of the people who are deplorable even if many of the deplorables share those qualities with decent people.  The defining qualities of the deplorables are their rabid racism, ethnocentrism, misogyny, xenophobia, anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-education, violent white supremacy views, and exclusionary views in general of anyone not sufficiently like them.  This new conservative populist coalition is not as ideological as past iterations. But conservatism isn’t supposed to be ideological.  Correct -- “not supposed to be ideological, but simply reasonable and justified!” Yes, America was founded on the basis of ideas, but it is a people and a nation first. – meaning or signifying what in this context? 


American conservatism exists to serve the people and the nation through the Constitution. This includes defending them against enemies foreign and domestic. And the fact is, elite institutions have become the people’s and the nation’s enemies – no, they haven’t, though possibly you consider them somehow enemies of you and people like you. They are openly waging cultural war on those they ostensibly serve – not insofar as they are trying to help others be treated more fairly and decently than they have been in the past and than they would be treated in the future without change.  That you strongly oppose their goals and/or methods doesn’t make them waging war on you any more than it makes you waging war against those they are trying to help.   They cannot be negotiated with or accommodated. Or maybe you can’t be negotiated with or accommodated.  They must be defunded, disbanded, and disempowered – that doesn’t sound like being “reformed” and it certainly is not what the people they help and serve want nor what is wanted by the people who want them to be helped and served.  The rewards for doing so—for putting American families first again—will be greater than we can know.  American history is filled with successful, assimilated immigrants wanting to deny other, future immigrants the same opportunities.  And it is filled with denials of education and training to those then deemed to be inferior because they are unskilled and uneducated.  But you can’t legitimately hold people at fault for not taking advantage of opportunities you prevented them from having.  And you cannot legitimately claim you did not deny people opportunities just because you failed to prevent all of them from having them or succeeding despite your best efforts to make them fail.  Politicians are all too fond of pointing to those who succeed despite all odds as showing there are no impediments to success, even though there clearly are such impediments that make success highly unlikely, though not totally impossible.  


This is the fight before us. If we thoughtfully and tenaciously combine populist energy with conservative principles, it is a fight we can win.  But previously you had written “It would be a strange nationalism that promises citizens sovereignty only to turn around and rule them like subjects. Indeed, that is precisely what the elite establishment does today—and why it is failing.”  And yet now you are arguing for “winning a fight” (not just an election) by using means that will allow just under and/or barely over 50% of voters and their elected officials to determine 100% of the laws and policies of the country, even in many cases denying the results of referenda voted specifically about issues like abortion in their states, but still call that populism and instituting the will of the people.  But that is only your will and the will of your people.  It will be the same form of tyranny of the governing majority that you despise when it goes against you.  It is not the popular will, nor populism, and it will likely be reasonably contested in court cases not to be constitutional or legal either.



Most of the following is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism but with some modification and additions.  It might help put all the above into greater perspective.

 

Populism is a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of the common 'people' and often position this group in opposition to a perceived 'elite'. It is frequently associated with anti-establishment and anti-political sentiment.    Anti-elitism is widely considered the central characteristic feature of populism, and the "fundamental distinguishing feature" of "the elite" is that it is in an "adversarial relationship" with "the people". In defining "the elite", populists often condemn not only the political establishment, but also the economic elite, cultural elite, academic elite, and the media elite, which they present as one homogeneous, corrupt group.  Of course, if you win elections and thus become part of the political "elite" you will be one of the groups you and your followers despise.
 

The word "populism" has been contested, mistranslated and used in reference to a diverse variety of movements and beliefs. The political scientist Will Brett characterized it as "a classic example of a stretched concept, pulled out of shape by overuse and misuse", while the political scientist Paul Taggart has said of populism that it is "one of the most widely used but poorly understood political concepts of our time".

 

Interestingly enough, both “elite” and “populist” are often used pejoratively.  A common framework for interpreting populism in a positive way and “the elite” in a negative way defines populism as an ideology that presents "the people" as a morally good force and contrasts them against "the elite", who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving. Populists differ in how "the people" are defined, but it can be based along class, ethnic, or national lines. Populists typically present "the elite" as comprising the political, economic, cultural, and media establishment, depicted as a homogeneous entity accused of placing their own interests above those of “the people”.  But populists might support nationalism, liberalism, free trade globalism, protectionism, socialism, capitalism or consumerism. Thus, populists can be found at different locations along the left–right political spectrum, and there exist both left-wing populism and right-wing populism. 

 

On the other hand, “populism” has often pejoratively been used synonymously with demagogy, to describe politicians who present overly simplistic answers to complex questions in a highly emotional manner, or with political opportunism, to characterize politicians who exploit problems and seek to please voters without rational consideration as to the best course of action, sometimes claimed to be linked to adverse economic outcomes, as "economic disintegration, decreasing macroeconomic stability, and the erosion of institutions are said typically to go hand in hand with populist rule, even if populist politicians promise economic improvement with that erosion and destabilization of the institutions.  The problem is the age-old one of condemning the status quo because of its actual and very real problems and deficiencies without having a better, functioning replacement.  It normally doesn’t help just to remove a leaking pipe or its seal that are under pressure.  You need to have a better pipe and/or seal to replace it with.  Otherwise, in regard to something like the functions of government, you end up with  disastrous incompetent chaos and with absence of service to people who need it.  Making a problem worse is not the desirable way to end it.

 

One of the ways that populists employ the understanding of "the people" is in the idea that "the people are sovereign", that in a democratic state governmental decisions should rest with the population and that if they are ignored then they might mobilize or revolt.  A second way in which "the people" is conceived by populists combines a socioeconomic or class based category with one that refers to certain cultural traditions and popular values. The concept seeks to vindicate the dignity of a social group who regard themselves as being oppressed by a dominant "elite" who are accused of treating "the people's" values, judgements, and tastes with suspicion or contempt. A third use of "the people" by populists employs it as a synonym for "the nation", whether that national community be conceived in either ethnic or civic terms. In such a framework, all individuals regarded as being "native" to a particular state, either by birth or by ethnicity, could be considered part of "the people".  My own suspicion is that like-minded people who are being harmed, or who feel they are being harmed, by the government in power at the time, whether the problem is actually caused by government policies or is caused by forces beyond any government's control, will consider themselves to be "the people" and the government to be an elitist group turning a deaf ear and a blind eye to their problems and concerns.  In some cases, they may be a majority or they may only believe they are when they actually are not.  But also, majorities do shift from time to time, depending on how many people are or feel they are adversely affected by the (perceived, claimed) problems.

 

Even apart from perceived problems, in general, what is a majority view can change with time.  In the mid to late 1950's, Americans, for example were becoming more affluent, but many young people and many women became disenchanted by the pursuit primarily of material gain and typical suburban life.  The culture shifted despite affluence toward more inner kinds of self-fulfillment or "self-actualization".  


What is popular in a culture changes in other ways too.  As I heard on the radio by chance the other day, Pakistan eradicated blindness caused by a particular disease, in large part by instituting better hygiene against the infectious mechanisms that caused it.  One of the primary hygiene tools was the introduction of toilets in homes.  But at first people were resistant to having and using toilets because they considered it unsanitary to urinate and defecate in your house instead of somewhere outside and out of the way.  They were finally won over to preferring toilets, but it took a lot of effort by public health agencies to convince them.  What is the most common or populist view at one time or place is not necessarily a populist view at another. 


Moreover, just because any view is most popular at any given time or place, that does not make it necessarily right.  And finally, even when a view is both popular and right, that doesn’t necessarily make it right to impose it on people by law, because some things are not made better by force or by law.  It is, for example, wrong to just stand people up for appointments or dates, but we don’t need police and courts forcing people to keep them or be fined or go to prison.  Some wrong acts, however, should be criminalized and laws against them enforced.  But getting this right for any issue involves and requires systematic and deeper ethical and philosophical consideration than what is typically presented by politicians, whether populists or not, by the news media, and by trolls on social media, or even by well-meaning, but simply narrowly like-minded people in their liberal or their conservative “bubbles” on it either.